Thursday, October 22, 2009

Count 1-B

(I am including a second blog for blog 1 because 3rd period didn't know about the blog yet. Also, some of 4th period didn't blog either. Remember: each blog counts ten points toward a quiz grade.)

Edmond Dantes doesn't make many mistakes. Every once in a great while he slips up. One of those occurred in your reading over pages 96-123. See if you can find what it is. Explain why it is a "slip up."

Be sure you know what happened to the following characters: Danglars, Fernand, Caderrouse, Mercedes, Morrell and Edmond's father. You will need to know this to continue with the book.

I have heard such good feedback from you all about your feelings on the novel. I overheard one student say, "Well, it's an old book, but it doesn't have old things in it." I have pondered over that and think it's interesting. I think I know what he means. One reason a novel becomes a classic is that it is timeless; the things that happen in it (not the specifics but the bigger issues) could happen in any time period. Betrayal still happens; people still try to get even. It's an age-old theme. That's my thought on what this student meant. Would you agree or do you think he meant something else?

33 comments:

  1. On page 104 The priest/Dantes slips. He anticipates Caderousse's story by commenting that Caderouse was at the Cavern.
    I agree. I think he meant that even though the setting is not modern, each one of the themes is still relevant to modern times. Most classic tales have "timeless" themes (Romeo and Juliet: love). This gives any reader from any era a way to relate to the book. A way to relate makes books more interesting and simpler to understand.
    -Molly V.

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  2. The priest/Dantes slips up when Caderousse tells him that the letter was written at the tavern the day before the betrothal feast. Dantes cries, "But you were there!" This astonishes Caderousse and causes him to wonder how the priest knew, but Dantes covers his mistake by saying that he thought that Caderrouse must have been there because he knew the details so well.
    I agree. This book's theme, revenge, is "ageless", so readers from any time period can read and enjoy it. The key is that we can all relate to what is going on in this story. This links the past to the present, because all human beings, people then and people now, have the same reaction to different events occuring in their lives.Many things may change around us, but the feelings and emotions all humans experience are eternal.
    - Roma P.

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  3. I also believe that Dantes slips up on page 104. At that moment, I believe Dantes could no longer control the anger and need for revenge which had built up during his imprisonment. During Caderousse's story, Dantes exclaims, "But you were there!" His exclamation shocks Caderousse since he had not mentioned being at the tavern in his story, and Caderousse begins to become suspicious. However, Dantes quickly realizes and covers up his mistake. He learns that he must be extra careful to not anticipate the story and give away his disguise.
    I also agree with the comment about a "timeless" book. Unlike other shortlived stories, classic novels endure through the ages because they deal with human nature, character, and emotions. While technology and inventions may develop and change, humans stay the same and feel the same way. Qualities such as these allow all readers to relate to the story which gives the book an enduring factor.
    -Andrew C.

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  4. Dantes slips up when he is in disguise as the priest. When Caderousse is explaining the events leading up to the arrest, Dantes exclaims that Caderousse was at the tavern where the men plotted the arrest and wrote the letter. If he were just a priest, he wouldn't have known that he was there during the scheming. But, when the men are planning the letter, Dantes walks by with Mercedes and sees that they are all together. This was an accidental hint to Caderousse that the priest was really Dantes.
    I agree with the student that said that this book is ageless. I believe that this book is ageless because it has themes that people used to , are, will always have to deal with. Envy, jealousy, revenge, evil minds, hateful hearts, framing others, and wrongful punishment are themes that have always occured in the human race.
    Katelyn J.

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  5. Danets slips up when he is talking to Caderousse as the preist. Caderousse is talking to him about the party, and after Caderousse says something about not knowing what happened at the party Dantes says, "But you were there." This almost gave Dantes up because Caderousse knew that this priest wasn't at the party. However, Dantes cleverly got his way out of being found.
    I enjoy this book a lot. It is an old book, but it is not written in old English, making it easier to read. I also like how we still take revenge on people today so that makes it not too different.
    Ryan S.

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  6. On page 104, Dantes (the priest) "slips up." He is supposed to be talking to Caderousse about each of his past friends, but he makes a huge mistake by accusing Caderousse of being a witness of the plan to imprison Dantes. Dantes is trying to remain undetected by disguising himself as a priest, but this moment could have blown his cover. Luckily, Dantes comes up with a good excuse for knowing that Caderousse was there by saying that Caderousse was so familiar with the story after Caderousse caught Dantes' mistake.
    Also, I agree that this book could be considered "ageless." These events that are taking place in this time period could very well be happening now, and they will more than likely happen in the future. This book gives us a strong taste of a man seeking vengeance, and I am sure that there are many people in this situation.
    Grace W.

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  7. Dantes does a very good job at holding his cover. He does, however, 'slip up' on page 104. Dates is talking to Caderousse about the day before the betrothal fiest and is supposed to be a priest. While they are talking, Dantes (priest) says "But you were there!" Caderousse is very confused and questions Dantes (priest) about this piece of information. He covers by saying that he assumed Caderousse was there because he knew so many details. Caderousse believes this and Dantes is saved.
    I don't know if I could say this book is timeless. I suppose the themes of revenge and betrayal are, but not all of it. I suppose it is just because I am having trouble relating to a book. I really think a book is goood for everyone when everyone can relate to it. Still being a kid, I can't relate to prison, or worrying about bankruptcy, or loosing your fiance. I may just be being unfair. It is a great book. I can realte to the feeling of wanting revenge. This feeling is timeless. I suppose the setting is what is throwing off my opinion. I can't visualize people from that era or anything from that era.
    Alina V.

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  8. After escaping from prison, Dantes, disguised as a priest, goes to visit Caderousse to find out some information about his friends (although some of them didn't turn out to actually be his friends) from before he was thrown in prison. Caderousse tells the story of how the letter accusing Dantes as a Bonapartist agent was written and claims not to have known about it. However, Dantes, anticipating the story accidentally blurts out, "But you were there!". Caderousse is shocked and confused as to how the priest could know this piece of information. Realizing his mistake, Dantes quickly comes up with the excuse that Caderousse knows all the other information so well that he must have been there.
    I, too, agree that this book could be considered "ageless". Dantes wants to get revenge on the people who betrayed him. No matter what, there will always be something that causes people to betray others due to their own selfish reasons. Revenge is also something that has been engraved in mankind since the beginning and will never go away. People will always feel the need to get even with those who have abandoned them.
    -Katherine W.

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  9. On page 104 the Priest (Dantes) slips up. He and Caderousse are talking about the letter that got Dantes in prison. Caderousse says that the letter was written in the tavern the day before the betrothal feast. Dantes suddenly cries out "but you were there!" and in doing so, admits he knows about the story.

    I also agree that The Count of Monte Cristo is a timeless novel. The themes in the book are ones that happen even today. Betrayal happens, and the people hurt almost always want revenge. I think that the student was talking about revenge and betrayal.
    ~Paige P.

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  10. On page 104, the priest(Dantes) "slips up". Caderousse was telling Dantes about the time when Danglars and Fernand were plotting Dantes imprisonment. When Caderousse never mentioned himslef as being guilty for helping to plot the letter, Dantes exclaims, "But you were there!" Caderousse becomes very supicious at this point because the only way he could know he was at the tavern is if someone told him about it, or if he was there. This "slip up" could have blown Dantes' cover, but he cleverly covers it up by telling Caderousse that he knows the story so well that it sounds like he is a witness. Caderousse then confesses to this, and luckily Dantes' cover as the priest still remains.

    I also agree that this book is "ageless." There are many people out there still trying to get revenge, being betrayed, and suffering in prison. This book gives us a sense that these events have not just been going on in the past, but are happening now and probably will continue to happen.
    Claire G.

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  11. On page 104 Edmond (the priest) slips up while he is talking to Caderousse. He makes a mistake when he says that Caderousse was in the Tavern the day before the betrothat feast. This was bad because the priest who Dantes was pretending to be had no way of knowing this.

    I agree that the Count of Monte Cristo is a "timeless" book. I agree because all of the major events that occur in the book still happen today. For example, there are many situations where people are overpowered by jealousy, and they betray people who were their friends.
    -Michael P.

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  12. I do believe that priest (Dantes) "slipped up". When he said, "But you where there!" Caderousse seams to have become wary about whether or not to trust the priest. Dantes recovers by saying that he had heard the stories told about them, but the "slip up" could have exposed him to Caderousse and his entire plan would be destroyed.

    I agree that this book is "ageless." So many people in todays' society that still try to take revenge, are betrayed, and suffer in prison.

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  13. On page 104 of The Count of Monte Cristo, Dantes, disguised as a priest, tries to find out who betrayed him and who was his true friend. While talking to Caderousse, Dantes accidently says, "But you were there!" Dantes could not have known that so he has to quickly cover up and says, "but you know the details so well that you must have been a witness." Dantes is a very good actor and when he does make a little mistake he is quick to recover.
    I agree that this book is "ageless." Dantes' desire to seek revenge against his betrayers would be interesting to read about no matter what the setting or what the time period. This plot is one that could easily take place today.
    Morgan P.

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  14. When Dantes disguises himself as a priest, and he enters the tavern of Caderousse and his wife and attempts to get Caderousse to tell him what has become of his betrayers. When Caderousse is telling him the story Dantes slips up by saying that Caderousse was at the tavern at the time of his arrest. The slip occurs because Caderousse never said that he was at the tavern when the arrest happened.
    The book is definately a timeless classic. Betrayel for one thing is a part of everyday society. You hear about husbands cheating on wives and vice versa. Your friends can betray you and talk about you behind your back. Although, The Count of Monte Cristo was set in a very old time period it covers struggles that still linger in our society today.
    Tom P.

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  15. For the most part Dantes did a great job keeping his cover as a priest, but like all human beings a single comment can boil a man's emotions which almost blew his cover. This was perfectly exemplified on page 104 when Dantes was enraged by the fact that Caderousse did not acknowledge his presence at the tavern. But, the key element that almost gave himself away was the exclamation in his voice:"But you were there!!!"
    I also agree with the comment posted about this story being "timeless". In my opinion, this story is timeless due to what it doesn't have rather than what it has. The lack of old English, extensive history, and difficult vocabulary this is an enjoyable book that in my opinion appeals to the people who are just starting their journey into classic novels.
    Nikhil B.

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  16. Dantes who is disgiused as a priest slips up with conversing with Caderousse. They were talking about how his "friends" betrayed him, and Dantes anticipates the story and says "But you were there!" There was no way that the priest could have known that he was there, and Caderousse questions him. Dantes covers himslf up, but his plan was almost ruined with the small error.

    I agree that this book is timeless. Revenge and betrayal has occured in out society in the past, the present, will continue on in the future because people will always have temptations to do wrong instead of right.

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  17. Cooper S. (I forgot to add my name)

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  18. Anonymously said...

    Dantes was intently listening to the story that he already knew when he cried "But you were there!" Caderousse hadn't ever said he was there. Dantes instantly knew he had made a mistake and covered it up saying he figured he was there because of his knowledge of the story.
    I agree with you. The Count of Monte Cristo is a timeless story. It's a book that will be read in classes forever. It teaches many life lessons and has a great plot with twists and turns. It's great thorughout every page I read. The Count Of Monte Cristo will always remain being read somewhere in the world.
    Megan H.

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  19. When Dantes was interviewing Caderousse, he was listening intently when all of the sudden he shouted, "But you were there!" This almost blew his cover as a priest but he quickly covered it up by saying that he must have been there to know so much detail.
    I agree. It is a very complex novel that will keep readers in the book the whole way through. It shows great examples of betrayal and getting even. I think that this book will be read for ages to come.
    Jack M.

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  20. The priest,who was Dantes, slips up when he is in the tavern with Caderousse. They were discussing the betrayal of Dantes when Dantes cries "But you were there!" Dantes then covered up his mistake b saying that he had only assumed this. Dantes almost blew his cover with this small error.
    I agree that this book is timeless. It is an old book but it has a theme that is in many other stories,revenge. These stories are the ones that usually hook a reader and allow the book to be around long enough to become a classic.
    Peyton L.

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  21. I belive Dantes slips up on the bottom of page 104. When the priest/Dantes is talking to Caderouse he gets furious and lets his anger ge the best of him. When Caderouse says, "In the tavern, the day before the betrothal feast." Then Dantes just got furious and says, "But you were there!" This was a big slip up because how would the priest know that Caderouse was there. Although he messes up, Dantes quickly comvers it up.
    I agree with you. The Count of Monte Cristo does seem somewhat "timeless". It is a big that will be taught everywhere around the world because it teaches such great moral values that kids today understand. This book is a great book whether you are a boy or a girl, or you are young or old.
    McKinleyw

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  22. Dantes, the disguised priest, had a "slip up" on page 104. He let the frustration of bring imprisoned for 14 years get the better of him and said that he knew Caderousse was at the tavern. Since Dantes was not suppose to be there(he was there as the preist), Caderousse was suspicious. Luckily, Dantes covered it up. He discovered that he can not give away his disguise.
    I agree with you completely. If you replace the events that happen with more modern things, he story will be the same with getting even and even and revenge. Also, the story doesn't have boring and unreadable context like otherold books. The boo is excitng, and i love it.
    J.T.

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  23. On page 104 the priest(Dantes) Is trying to figure out where the letter that got him sent to jail was written. Caderousse says that the letter was written in the tavern, and then Dantes slips up because he says "But you were there" to Caderouse. dantes quickly covers up for his mistake although it was a very close call.
    I agree what you said about the students quote but I also think of it another way. I think that even though it was written so long ago It could be written today and still be normal. There are very little indications of the time period it was written in.
    Brock D.

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  24. When Dantes, disguised as a priest, is talking to Caderousse on page 104, he made one of his rare mistakes. As Caderousse is describing Ferdenand and Danglars' exchange at the tavern, Dantes (the priest) shouts "But you were there!". He quickly covers it up by saying that this was what Dantes had told him, so Caderousse wouldn't comprehend who he really is and that he was there too.
    I agree with you and the student who said that the book was ageless. It could have been written today, or in any time period. This same scenario could happen present day as well as 200 years ago. The only difference would be to exchange the ships for airplanes, taverns for bars, and so on.

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  25. above was MCM by the way

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  26. The incident which you mentioned occured on page 104 when Dantes skips ahead in the conversation, mind muddled by sadness. The rare mistake was made when Dantes exclaimed "But you were there", when Caderousse mentioned about the time when Danglars and Fernand had the conversation at the tavern.
    I think that like you said, some emotions had been present in human beings since the beginning of time. When Eve ate the Forbidden Fruit, temptation was there. It so happens that little emotion met up with me yesterday when I saw the brownies for dessert. Everyone lives the same lives, just different emotions shape their lives at different times and oppurtunities. Cole J.

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  27. Dantes did have a "slip up" but he did manage to cover it up well and go onto the next subject. He did this when he was talking to Cadderousse about when Cadderousse, Ferdnan, and Danglars were in the oub plotting Dantes downfall.

    I agree this book is fabulous and if you did put it in modern times it would totally work. Dumas has an incredible ability to write. I LOVE THIS BOOK!!!!!


    - G.Munf.

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  28. Dantes did make a mistake but fortunatly for him he was able to cover for it. His slip up is when he exclaims "But you were there" implying that Cadaroose was at the tavern, where they were planning to betray Dantes. I beleive it was Dantes's grief and anger that made him make such a foolish mistake.

    I also agree that this book is a "timeless" book. This book could have taken place at any time in the present as well as the time it was set in. All the author would have to do would be to change boats to airplanes, taverns to bars, carriages to cars, and modernize many other things as well. Teddy G.

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  29. Dantes knows where Cadaroose was, and all the stuff about Dantes own wedding ceromony. And he also knows that Cadaroose was there when Ferdand and Danglars were sending the letter.

    Addie E.

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  30. I think that he does slip up on page 104 when he yells at Caderousse,"But you were there!" I think that this could have blown his cover but he covers it up well, and Caderousse probably wants the diamond so bad that he doesn't really care.
    I agree with the fact that this is a timeless book. There are still people who go out for revenge ,and kill people because they did something that hurt them or ruined their life.
    -Roman S.

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  31. On page 104, after Cadderouse explains to Dantes (the priest) that the letter for his arrest had been written and mailed in the tavern before the betrothal feast, Dantes, remembering he had seen them there, yells,"But you were there!" showing that he knows something about the subject. He covers it up though, so luckily, no harm was done.
    I would have to agree with the student in some ways because the book's style of writing is old, but, as the student said, the content isn't. The theme, getting even, still happens everyday today making it a "timeless" book.
    -Fred L.

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  32. Edmond Dantes goes to Caderouse disguised as a priest and pretends to be carrying out Dantes will. While Caderouse is explaining to Dantes the events that led up to his arrest Dantes says, "But you were there!." This could have blown Dantes cover and ruined his whole plan to repay all of his friends and enemies but Dantes realized his mistake and covered it up.
    I agree with the student's comment about how this book is timeless. The themes used in this book are still apart of everyday life and would still make an interesting story if it were written today.
    William U.

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